Trevor B
6:02 Thu Mar 23
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Aardvark
I think they can sell now if they want to, a clause in the deal means that debts can be offset and the taxpayer would not get a penny.
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Aardvark
5:56 Thu Mar 23
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Anybody that actually believes Sullivan when he says he will one hand the club over to his children is very naive.
David Sullivan is an extremely successful businessman. Making money is in his blood. It's what he does. It's what he is. He is building a global brand with West Ham. When a bid comes in - and it will - he will take the money and be off, you won't see him for dust.
For the porn brothers to maximise their profit, I'm guessing they'll hang onto the club until the clause that prevents them from keeping 100% of the profit has expired.
They're not West Ham, they're businessmen.
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Johnson
3:53 Thu Mar 23
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It is also worse that it is his son too, as he is more likely to be blind to any shortcomings the little divvy might have.
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Johnson
3:52 Thu Mar 23
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Right, so because Sullivan, who seems to be the only person in English football who has done this, did it once (WITH ZERO SUCCESS ON THE PITCH I MIGHT ADD), no-one should be concerned that he might do it again?
You might be happy Sullivan runs this club like a Sunday side, but I am not.
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BillyJenningsBoots
2:58 Thu Mar 23
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Apologies if someone else has already ripped Chris a new one having noticed he's on a wind up!!!!
Firstly Chris2012 is that the year you were born?
Secondly how long have you been a West Ham fan?
Thirdly your post is either full of subtle windups or you are indeed a complete idiot!
The things you understand about West Ham hmmmm are you a Spurs fan having a laugh and who keeps bumping this sh!t
"Similarities to West Ham United in London where both of these have Sky Blue in their club's colours" - embarrassing!"
"West Ham United also realistically grow as a club and other midlands clubs such as Nottingham Forest" - Other Midlands clubs - what are you talking about!
Someone lock or delete this thread!
Apologies having a bad day but no excuse to put up with this!
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Dr Moose
2:55 Thu Mar 23
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The strikers that we want are also linked to sides in european competition, which club do you think that player will sign for? us? we can offer a Wednesday night in Hull or a side who can offer a night in Madrid\\Barcelona\\Paris. Not really difficult which club that kind of player will go to.
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AlvinMartinAllen
2:34 Thu Mar 23
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Well considering he is his son, it wouldn't be a normal appointment for a start.
Also as Sullivan did appoint an early 20's woman as managing director at Birmingham I'm fucked if I know what you're arguing against?
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Johnson
2:29 Thu Mar 23
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I think to run an organisation employing some of the premier talents in their industry, plus hundreds of support staff, dealing day to day with some of the world's richest and most successful men a chairman must have some degree of gravitas, backed up by wisdom, experience and guile.
In their 20s there is no way schoolboy Jack Sullivan or the night club promoter Dave Jnr will have any of those things so it matters greatly how old, or more importantly experienced, they are.
This is not one big game of Football Manager you know.
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AlvinMartinAllen
2:22 Thu Mar 23
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Johnson 2:00 Thu Mar 23
30 years?
What difference does it matter if he was one of the youngest, it's not like football chairman go to a special university for decades to graduate.
Considering the input his youngun has already at the club I can't see anything other than him taking over, what with Sullivan saying he doesn't want to sell and wants to pass it on to his kids.
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Trevor B
2:02 Thu Mar 23
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I know one that's 23, good bloke actually. I can't imagine being Chairman of anything at that age though, fuck that.
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Johnson
2:00 Thu Mar 23
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So he's going to stay active for another 30 odd years then?
How many 25 year old chairmen do you know?
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AlvinMartinAllen
1:31 Thu Mar 23
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I don't think we need anymore investment. Our budgets are good, but we simply have no decent transfer policy, and youth policy to make the best of it.
There has been improvement and we are poaching young players more often now, but we need to find a steady conveyor belt, having faith in these players LONG TERM. This season we brought in half a squad and gave up on most of them within weeks of them coming in.
Nothing will change so long as Sullivan has direct involvement. It's a shame he won't take a back seat and hire a shrewd chairman to run that side of the club, but no doubt he'll stay active until his youngest is ready to take over.
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sidneyshitcunt
1:19 Thu Mar 23
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Sullivan is a billionaire. How would being bought out by a 'multi-millionaire' help? Let me know if you ever make a billion, I'll swap it for multi-millions for you.
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pdbis
12:44 Thu Mar 23
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Unless we are bought out by a multi millionaire or get a very good manager who can build a good team spirit on a budget then the answer is no.
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Uncle Junior
11:17 Wed Mar 22
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Surely this post is taking the piss
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Son of Anarchy
8:55 Wed Mar 22
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Given we've only ever won cups and not the league would suggest consistency and strength in depth has been our issue in our history.
It would take Chelsea or Man City type investment for a club like West Ham to break through or early 90s Man Uinted or todays Spurs youth breakthrough.
Our hope is the latter
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SurfaceAgentX2Zero
8:20 Wed Mar 22
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chris2012 9:00 Wed Mar 22
'When the King succeeds the Queen though, it will be either King Charles Olympic Park OR King William Olympic Park.'
Erm, really, why?
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yngwies Cat
8:03 Wed Mar 22
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I fuckin hope So Chris. Reckon I got another 30 years left..
Hurry up
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Side of Ham
7:34 Wed Mar 22
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Tottenham are doing it the Man U way as they were like Spurs always signing big name foreign imports amongst other top british talent.THEN they had a good run with the youth product and it all blended well.
BOTH still spent absolute bundles though regardless of what they are spending now or how many books they keep in the black.
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7:25 Wed Mar 22
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Can we be successful again, well it depends what is meant by success. We have been a team that has won nothing and only really challenged once for anything in the modern, PL, era. And that is statistically the same as most of the PL teams except for the odd times when Portsmouth or Wigan have won the FA cup.
To win then we need to be competitive at the highest level and to do that we need to spend money and have a squad of top level players. There is the Big Bang money method where first Chelsea and then Man City simply spent their way to the top. Alternatively there is the slower grow method which ManU, Arsenal, Liverpool and more recently Spurs have used. However whatever means these clubs have used to stabilise in the top six the fact is that it is not job done at all because they need to keep up this level of expenditure to maintain top six status.
Our owners are not money laundering oligarchs or oil rich orientals so they are not going to risk what would either be a significant part of their wealth or the club's financial well being to go for broke with a big spend. The other option of growing into the regular very top level will take a patience and level of expertise that we have no evidence of.
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Johnson
6:49 Wed Mar 22
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That's exactly what he did do Trev, see further down.
That post is utter bollocks too though to be fair.
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